TDG Development Diary

Lobo · **Reply #390 on:** December 19, 2009, 09:33:11 pm

Quote from: Flash on December 19, 2009, 09:26:58 pm

I hope you did not slip!

Well done SF for the post.

Nope, got back in one piece, now I'm on the road to nowhere - Talking Heads style.

Great stuff for posting that there SF, do they allow for such things? I thought it was only for music/remixes.
And yeah, hopefully by the time you get older we can have 24 more releases.

spacefractal · **Reply #391 on:** December 19, 2009, 09:56:02 pm

HeadKaze posted in the "original" forum where I got PM contacted by HeadKaze (which was not relative to music at all), and then since joined to this really "worldwide" great team:
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=98916.0

Its depend which forum posted it. I Could post it on the "Fun Forum" as well, but I did in the "General Forum", so they could move the thread if they want. Warhawk did posted there too (when a user discovered a missing music credits)

sverx · **Reply #392 on:** December 20, 2009, 06:15:08 pm

Happy bday, mate!

btw, is it Monthorpe or Manthorpe?

Check the spelling in the announce post...

(and... ahem... do you need an additional coder / beta tester for your next *secret* game ... ?

)

Lobo · **Reply #393 on:** December 20, 2009, 07:29:34 pm

Quote from: sverx on December 20, 2009, 06:15:08 pm

btw, is it Monthorpe or Manthorpe? Check the spelling in the announce post...

It's Manthorpe most likely as we have discovered. Also check 'Charcters were created' , misspelled Characters.

Quote from: sverx on December 20, 2009, 06:15:08 pm

(and... ahem... do you need an additional coder / beta tester for your next *secret* game ... ? )

Hehe..did you sacrifice the virgin yet?

sverx · **Reply #394 on:** December 21, 2009, 07:22:02 am

Quote from: Lobo on December 20, 2009, 07:29:34 pm

Hehe..did you sacrifice the virgin yet?

Couldn't find any...

Lobo · **Reply #395 on:** December 21, 2009, 04:21:58 pm

Quote from: sverx on December 21, 2009, 07:22:02 am

Couldn't find any...

Proper response for the trick question, you're IN!

sverx · **Reply #396 on:** December 22, 2009, 09:03:10 am

Ready to start!

flash · **Reply #397 on:** December 22, 2009, 10:38:31 am

You can never have enough beta testing, or suggestions.

Once we have another build with something to show - we will shout

sverx · **Reply #398 on:** December 22, 2009, 02:38:22 pm

Quote from: Flash on December 22, 2009, 10:38:31 am

You can never have enough beta testing, or suggestions.

Ok, I'll be beta testing again, no real coding uh?

... well, I hope at least you'll use libXM7 this time!

flash · **Reply #399 on:** December 22, 2009, 02:46:11 pm

Well, at the moment both HK and myself have enough to keep us busy nicely. HK and myself coding together works well as we live opposite each other (world wise), so we can code in turns.

Lobo · **Reply #400 on:** December 22, 2009, 04:37:52 pm

Like this >

Lobo · **Reply #401 on:** December 22, 2009, 04:39:21 pm

Actually we should talk about this in the secret lair, quick into the dungeon!!

Lobo · **Reply #402 on:** December 23, 2009, 01:44:32 am

Found this~

waggawagga

Lobo · **Reply #403 on:** December 23, 2009, 02:36:36 am

Ok, even better, I laughed for a good 45 minutes...just read what it says below the screenshots~!

LOLOFTHECENTURY

sverx · **Reply #404 on:** December 23, 2009, 08:43:10 am

Quote from: Flash on December 22, 2009, 02:46:11 pm

Well, at the moment both HK and myself have enough to keep us busy nicely. HK and myself coding together works well as we live opposite each other (world wise), so we can code in turns.

I see, no problem

btw I'm here if you need help (unlikely...) or an opinion (more probable)

@Lobo: ... and is it a release of a new C64 game remake of an old DS game? ? ? LOL!!!

flash · **Reply #405 on:** December 23, 2009, 09:21:24 am

It is perhaps the drunken coders post that is not too clear on who coded the DS version
http://drunkencoders.com/2009/12/the-detective-game/
They have used the introduction text from Headsoft but omitted the credits.

EDIT: Hold on, upon further inspection, Headkaze made the post... That last paragraph on it's own does tend to indicate that Sam coded the DS port.

sverx · **Reply #406 on:** December 23, 2009, 09:43:08 am

Quote from: Flash on December 23, 2009, 09:21:24 am

EDIT: Hold on, upon further inspection, Headkaze made the post... That last paragraph on it's own does tend to indicate that Sam coded the DS port.

mmm... ok that English isn't my native language, and that I barely can communicate using it, but the sentence "This is a remake of the 1986 C64 game by Sam Monthorpe for the Nintendo DS." look quite clear to me, even if I'm sure it could have written in a better way. (but is he Monthorpe or Manthorpe ?? Here is with 'a'...)

headkaze · **Reply #407 on:** December 23, 2009, 11:22:09 am

I've debated this Manthorpe, Monthorpe thing with Lobo and we both came to the conclusion it must be Manthorpe. It's written both ways in places on the net, even the original game with his signature still makes it hard to make out if it's an 'a' or an 'o'. So we just thought, "Manthorpe" sounds right. I'm pretty sure we are right too.

It is my fault that I make it sound like he coded the new version.. I should have stated our names as we have done in the past. I can always edit the post and change it.. perhaps I will.. but lets face it it's bad journalism not to get it right.. we've had this debate before about copy and pasting news is not a good news site does make.

Sokurah · **Reply #408 on:** December 23, 2009, 12:04:31 pm

Quote from: headkaze on December 23, 2009, 11:22:09 am

BTW I must admit I am a little dissapointed that I gave an intro screen to Retro Remakes and they don't have the decency to reply to my PM's or make a news post... I really feel a little shafted here.

Look here or at this quote...it's a few days old.

Quote from: OddBob

Last day on the intertits for me for a few days by the looks of things. Whoops, who didn't pay his bill so he could have Christmas instead Wink

Just so no-one thinks I've died or anything, obv. Cheesy

So, any news posting/achieveyment stuff or whatever won't get done till after Xmas as I'm officially doing fuck all but working on my game today!

I know you're annoyed but he does get a LOT of mail, and now he's left the place for a while to concentrate on christmas for a bit.

He'll get to it.

headkaze · **Reply #409 on:** December 23, 2009, 12:11:00 pm

Sok I deleted that part of my post because I realised I was probably just being impatient. As for that link you gave "The topic or board you are looking for appears to be either missing or off limits to you.".. I don't have access to that part of the forum. I just expected a reply from my PM, not so much a news post (I understand TDG is not a hugly popular and well known game), but I guess he doesn't always reply to all his PM's?

Sokurah · **Reply #410 on:** December 23, 2009, 12:18:51 pm

Oh, you must have edited your post at the same time as I was replying.

I'm sure he answers all his PM's, if he feel they're worth replying to (which yours should definitely be), but he's not always fast. Sometimes it does take him a while to answer.

Bob is not the only one posting news on RR though. There's also SprayDough, Caffeinekid and (as far as I remember) Ian too, so you could try to PM any of those and see what happens?

Edit:
Oh, and yeah, perhaps a post like that shouldn't have been in the subscribers forum as everyone could benefit from knowing things will take longer over the holidays.

sverx · **Reply #411 on:** December 23, 2009, 12:19:10 pm

Quote from: headkaze on December 23, 2009, 11:22:09 am

but lets face it it's bad journalism not to get it right.. we've had this debate before about copy and pasting news is not a good news site does make.

This taught me one thing, when I released libXM7: write your announce post as if it was the announce of a website, so that it works better for those sites that simply copy&paste.
Or announce it to Kojote of PDRoms.de before the others, so that the others will simply copy what he writes, which usually sound right.

headkaze · **Reply #412 on:** December 23, 2009, 12:25:53 pm

Well actually I PM RobF asking if he was the founder of the site and how much I admired it rather than ask him to post news. I don't want to be pushy about it. I think RR is such a great site, I love it which is why I gave up a bit of "screen realty" for them. I'm a little embarrassed you replied before I had a chance to edit my post.. Oh well I was a bit upset.. but fark.. it's xmas, be patient (hit myself over the head with a large carp)! And whats with this secret forum area... who do I have to fondle to get access? lol

Yes I did fuck up with the news post.. really it was a rushed release in the end and I was drinking.. oh dear! O_O

Lobo · **Reply #413 on:** December 23, 2009, 03:12:28 pm

Yeah, that post sounded so unprofessional because if author really didn't only copy/paste but took time to do his/her own research, would find out that Sam proooobably don't have desire or will to code the game for DS he did back in C64 days ('86 or so). At the same time, the way it is written on the front page is totally weird as for anyone lazy enough to put two and two together it does sound as if some Magnificent Seven with Yul Brynner on top have made this remake. Next time just put the actual authors info so we don't overly add to the confusion the internet already is.

As for TDG on RR, yeah man, let it all come in the time, no need to rush Bob or anyone as difference about posting it now or in 5 weeks is not gonna do anything really. I know he or someone else will post it but this is the most busiest time for many (party party!!!) so, hehe just wait for it as it proves that alcohol and games do not work (well, it does in my case but that's different).

Secret area, you have to get some status thing, I think Flash has it already, ask him how many green ones he had to count to enter.

sverx · **Reply #414 on:** December 23, 2009, 04:22:24 pm

Quote

This is a pretty awesome remake. It's a shame to see that it's not an official port. You think quality work like this might get the attention of the license-holders in order to work a deal.

from here

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This looks like a dream come true, a remake of one of my favourite c64 games! I? would go as far as to pay to play a remake of it, and this is free!
Thank you thank you thank you!!

from here

Sokurah · **Reply #415 on:** December 23, 2009, 05:00:02 pm

Quote from: Lobo on December 23, 2009, 03:12:28 pm

As for TDG on RR, yeah man, let it all come in the time, no need to rush Bob or anyone as difference about posting it now or in 5 weeks is not gonna do anything really. I know he or someone else will post it but this is the most busiest time for many (party party!!!) so, hehe just wait for it as it proves that alcohol and games do not work (well, it does in my case but that's different).

Well, you didn't have to wait too long - it's already been newserised.

headkaze · **Reply #416 on:** December 24, 2009, 04:07:45 am

Quote from: Sokurah on December 23, 2009, 05:00:02 pm

Well, you didn't have to wait too long - it's already been newserised.

Thanks RetroRemakes! Still.. I am curious about the history of the site.. like who started it etc. Does anyone know?

Sokurah · **Reply #417 on:** December 24, 2009, 11:24:40 am

Quote from: headkaze on December 24, 2009, 04:07:45 am

Thanks RetroRemakes! Still.. I am curious about the history of the site.. like who started it etc. Does anyone know?

Yeah, I know. Let me see how much I can remember.

...I wish I could direct you to a nice forum post, because I'm sure I could've found something on the old forum, but sadly a lot of history was lost when the site was hacked back in january.

Anyway, before the site was 'Retro Remakes' it was called 'remakes.org' and was the work of one person, [JJ].
- Hitman, who is still a member, was involved as well.

The earliest webpage I can find from the old site is from july 2002 but the site is definitely older than that, but it must have been called something else. It's all lost to my disintegrating memory though, and I can't find any references on the net to it. Their 'Pick of the Month' goes as far back as september 2001 though, but I'm sure it started even earlier. It feels like I've been visiting there for a loooong time.

I always remember the old site as 'The black site' - click here to pull a copy of the old page from the web archive and see why. Back then I wasn't a contributor though - just an anonymous visitor and I never (as far as I recall) visited the forum.

Around november 2002 it changed its name to Retro Remakes but kept the old URL. It would be some years before taking over the retroremakes.com url.

Some years later [JJ] didn't have the time or incentive to run it anymore so Bob took over from him and he is the owner now, although I can't remember exactly when that was.

One thing that really draws new people to RR are the programming competitions. The first one was in 2003 (I think) but although I'd just started programming then I didn't join the competition. The year after there was another competition and that's when I finally registered as a user and finished my first game. That was Sir Lancelot which was placed 11 out of 76 games.

Perhaps I should post this on RR and have people fill out the holes.

spacefractal · **Reply #418 on:** December 26, 2009, 06:05:37 pm

http://www.remix64.com/board/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7254

Jan ask for some game to been remaked :-D, there is other murder games as well, which could fit as well as a nice side project? I have not played these game, sooo, but its a gonna nice post Jan wrote about this game.

headkaze · **Reply #419 on:** December 29, 2009, 06:31:44 am

sverx: Flash and I had a chat a while back and both agreed to give you access to the team area (Lobo and SF had already made it clear they felt the same way). While we are not in need of another coder right now we wanted you to be able to follow our progress and be a part of the development process. We may end up expanding into something bigger later down the track so who knows what the future holds? Anyway I'm sure we will all benefit from your input and hope you get something out of it aswell